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Post by knappling on Nov 5, 2006 17:33:27 GMT -9
I think it would be great if cachers teamed up to place a series of caches near the Tour of Anchorage trail. They would be perfect for skiing to, but the trail is multi-use so there wouldn't be any issues with ski etiquette.
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 5, 2006 17:54:06 GMT -9
I'm game and have my spot picked out.
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 5, 2006 19:57:56 GMT -9
I think it would be great if cachers teamed up to place a series of caches near the Tour of Anchorage trail. They would be perfect for skiing to, but the trail is multi-use so there wouldn't be any issues with ski etiquette. That's a good idea.... Skiing to complete a series of caches would be great. That would be fun for us during our Alaskan vacation.... in December....
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 6, 2006 6:17:39 GMT -9
Talk to me, scobey - I'm curious about a few spots along that screaming downhill Service HS to BLM trail - the newly widened one = I think that's part of the Tour...
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Post by oleruns on Nov 6, 2006 6:46:01 GMT -9
Here is one map NorthWes:
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Post by oleruns on Nov 6, 2006 6:51:52 GMT -9
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 6, 2006 11:20:17 GMT -9
Wow! No wonder I'm tired when I finish that race. Thanks for the cool perspective!
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 6, 2006 14:17:27 GMT -9
The tilted-earth perspective satellite photo-map is awesome.
So many places left to place a cache - all within city limits...
Makes you really appreciate the greenbelts and the Campbell Tract / Bicentennial Park areas, as well as our city parks, doesn't it?
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Post by knappling on Nov 6, 2006 19:31:50 GMT -9
It sounds like there are plenty of people willing to place caches. I could place a cache or two on the trail where it goes through APU.
It would be nice if there was some balance in the cache size, maybe a few micros, smalls, and traditionals.
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 6, 2006 19:40:51 GMT -9
It sounds like there are plenty of people willing to place caches. I could place a cache or two on the trail where it goes through APU. It would be nice if there was some balance in the cache size, maybe a few micros, smalls, and traditionals. Seems to me there are already enough in APU but I could be wrong. Maybe there are some areas close to APU that need caches.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 6, 2006 21:04:59 GMT -9
How many caches could a new cacher get on that system or close to it, seems to me you could get a pretty good number. The areas out by the airport to Kincaid are pretty open but you don't get the hits on your caches out that way. I guess that's not a yes or no. I have an idea for one I have had for a long time, I should place it pretty soon and it would be on the trail. (not this week)
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Post by knappling on Nov 7, 2006 20:44:20 GMT -9
We could start by placing a cache at each start location: Russian Jack and Service
I'm aware APU is crowded with caches. I was thinking more of placing a cache further along the trail where it goes by the UAA arts building.
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 8, 2006 14:20:23 GMT -9
We could start by placing a cache at each start location: Russian Jack and Service I'm aware APU is crowded with caches. I was thinking more of placing a cache further along the trail where it goes by the UAA arts building. That's waht I was thinking too.
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 8, 2006 16:38:11 GMT -9
I've got a cache hide figured out for about 10k from the finish line... now I just have to place it! What should we name this Series? Tour of Anchorage - xxxx? Such as where I want to place - "Tour of Anchorage - 10K to home!" Want to make it a series with the 'Tour of Anchorage -' prefix for placements along the trail? We'd want to be sure and include a note for the reviewer about the series being along Anchorage's world-class 50K Ski Marathon route... one of the largest citizen races held worldwide. The cache short intro should have standard language too... solidifies the series for finders. We could have a special cache available only to those who find the entire series... or not.
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 8, 2006 16:40:16 GMT -9
...and I like the view from the other end of the course too...
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Post by Malcore on Nov 8, 2006 16:53:46 GMT -9
Nice maps, How are you getting the trail to show up on the google earth maps?
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Post by powmia on Nov 8, 2006 16:59:31 GMT -9
I've got a cache hide figured out for about 10k from the finish line... now I just have to place it! What should we name this Series? Tour of Anchorage - xxxx? Such as where I want to place - "Tour of Anchorage - 10K to home!" Want to make it a series with the 'Tour of Anchorage -' prefix for placements along the trail? We'd want to be sure and include a note for the reviewer about the series being along Anchorage's world-class 50K Ski Marathon route... one of the largest citizen races held worldwide. The cache short intro should have standard language too... solidifies the series for finders. We could have a special cache available only to those who find the entire series... or not. I hope it will easier to hide and publish a cache than it was to comprehend and do what you wrote. As long as it is computer friendly to publish one. As I state, I know about as much about computers as I did 50 years ago.
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 8, 2006 18:22:19 GMT -9
I've got a cache hide figured out for about 10k from the finish line... now I just have to place it! What should we name this Series? Tour of Anchorage - xxxx? Such as where I want to place - "Tour of Anchorage - 10K to home!" Want to make it a series with the 'Tour of Anchorage -' prefix for placements along the trail? We'd want to be sure and include a note for the reviewer about the series being along Anchorage's world-class 50K Ski Marathon route... one of the largest citizen races held worldwide. The cache short intro should have standard language too... solidifies the series for finders. We could have a special cache available only to those who find the entire series... or not. What about existing caches that are on the Tour route already?
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Post by knappling on Nov 8, 2006 18:43:56 GMT -9
I've got a cache hide figured out for about 10k from the finish line... now I just have to place it! What should we name this Series? Tour of Anchorage - xxxx? Such as where I want to place - "Tour of Anchorage - 10K to home!" Want to make it a series with the 'Tour of Anchorage -' prefix for placements along the trail? We'd want to be sure and include a note for the reviewer about the series being along Anchorage's world-class 50K Ski Marathon route... one of the largest citizen races held worldwide. The cache short intro should have standard language too... solidifies the series for finders. We could have a special cache available only to those who find the entire series... or not. What about existing caches that are on the Tour route already? I suggest we make a bookmark list with all the caches along the Tour of Anchorage trail. We could include the existing caches on the list. I think that if a cache was made specifically for the Tour of Anchorage series, it's name should be Tour of Anchorage - xxxx, like NorthWes suggested. It would be cool to have a special cache for people who find the entire series. Maybe it could be somewhere near the Kincaid stadium finish? Just an idea. If scobey wants to place a cache near the UAA recital hall, I could place a micro on the Tudor Bridge instead.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 8, 2006 19:11:28 GMT -9
Those are off the Nordic site I am sure they put them on the pictures then uploaded them again.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 8, 2006 19:46:07 GMT -9
Knappling, I think you are the best guy for building a bookmark listing for all the caches you could get along the route as it is right now. I have a couple ideas and will place one or two if you want to get it going. Sounds like there are a few people who are willing to place some.
Are you willing to build the list?
Thanks a million!!! Ole
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 8, 2006 20:00:54 GMT -9
Those are off the Nordic site I am sure they put them on the pictures then uploaded them again. Reply to malcore - that's right - these two google maps were downloaded by a crafty Nordic Ski Club engineer, the route outlined on them in a photo-editing program, and then put up on their website. They've also got a pdf of the entire route on their site. It's at: www.anchoragenordicski.com/Go to the link on the left side labeled 'trails and grooming' - an awesome resource!
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Post by Forum Admin on Nov 8, 2006 20:01:47 GMT -9
What about existing caches that are on the Tour route already? I suggest we make a bookmark list with all the caches along the Tour of Anchorage trail. We could include the existing caches on the list. I think that if a cache was made specifically for the Tour of Anchorage series, it's name should be Tour of Anchorage - xxxx, like NorthWes suggested. It would be cool to have a special cache for people who find the entire series. Maybe it could be somewhere near the Kincaid stadium finish? Just an idea. If scobey wants to place a cache near the UAA recital hall, I could place a micro on the Tudor Bridge instead. No, I was thinking you should pick an area near APU since you know it well and put aa cahce or 2 there.
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 8, 2006 20:02:20 GMT -9
I like the bookmark system for existing or new placements that don't follow a Tour of Anchorage series theme... and ones that want to follow a theme can do so!
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Post by knappling on Nov 8, 2006 21:29:38 GMT -9
This is a very rough list of the caches on the trail. I'm not sure if Ivan Getting Memorial cache is on there, but it did look like it on the map. I have only done the 25k so I don't know the exact trail of the other part of the course. Please post any suggestions to remove or add caches, name change suggestions, and comments. I haven't found a few of these caches so I don't know how close to the trail they are. Also, where does the trail go through APU? It might be close to the travel bug exchange but I couldn't tell on the map. Click here to view the list.
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 8, 2006 22:13:47 GMT -9
This is a very rough list of the caches on the trail. I'm not sure if Ivan Getting Memorial cache is on there, but it did look like it on the map. I have only done the 25k so I don't know the exact trail of the other part of the course. Please post any suggestions to remove or add caches, name change suggestions, and comments. I haven't found a few of these caches so I don't know how close to the trail they are. Also, where does the trail go through APU? It might be close to the travel bug exchange but I couldn't tell on the map. Click here to view the list. Ivan Getting Memorial is on the 50K outbound. barbecue by AKbike&ski (GCJBPE) London Bridge by Davder, Guper Seekie are on the section covered by both the 40K and 50K courses. What's the criterion for proximity to the trail? There are several other caches within 0.25 miles of the trail, but I don't know if people want to count them (e.g. Wild Flowers by bwolv (GC11B7), Rabbit's Highway by Davder (GCMRCY), Far North Bear-L by 72olympics (GCNDRN), several of the APU caches, Coastal Trail Memorial Series: #2. The Iron Worker by slatrat (GCWXYF), Cache on the Hill by Meredia (GCJZNJ), Swamp Cache by Deke Rivers (GCGJ0N), Oleruns' Jolly Roger, etc.). There are also a few caches in the southern part of Russian Jack part that might also meet a .25 mile criterion.
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 9, 2006 11:16:24 GMT -9
To merit use of the 'Tour of Anchorage - xxxx' cache series naming system I suggest trail proximity criterion be under 50 feet to allow skiers (winter) and bikers/hikers (summer) relatively easy access without adding a major sub-trip to a cache. The goal is a corridor with caches that can be run in a day's journey, either as two 25k segments or one monster 50k trip - based on ability.
If we want to keep to the newer 'park-friendly' cache placement ideology (being espoused in Vancouver Canada & elsewhere) the caches wouldn't require leaving the trail much at all... and would create no new 'social trails.' This placement philosophy would keep the trail corridor 'cache-friendly' in the eyes of the different land managers involved (city parks & BLM). Close trail proximity also moderates concerns over cache placements along parts of this route being impacted by homeless camps - for health and safety reasons.
I can see this becoming a "destination" tour attraction for locals and visitors alike - on skis or bikes - something akin to the 'Iron Horse' trail trip that's down in Washington. It's a 25 to 50K trip (ten to twenty miles) - and long side trips only detract from the concept of a trail corridor cache series. That's no slam on existing nearby caches of course - and folks are free to bust out for those as they want - but to keep to the 'Tour' theme new cache placements need to be pretty close-in to the trail. And of course the bookmark list would highlight ALL nearby caches - not just the close-in to the trail 'Tour of Anchorage'-named caches.
What do you think?
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Post by oleruns on Nov 9, 2006 12:51:51 GMT -9
I agree, they should be like supersize, real close for the tour.
I was thinking of doing all the planets with micros like supersize just for the fun of the "planet walk". Most of those could be used on both boomarks or a combo series. The only reason I did not do it was that it is almost placing a cache for the sake of placing a cache and may take away the fun, what do you think?
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Post by knappling on Nov 9, 2006 18:05:32 GMT -9
I agree with NorthWes's ideas. I'm adding all caches that fit the .25 mile criterion on the list, but noting that only caches with names reading Tour of Anchorage - xxxx, or otherwise noted, are within fifty feet of the trail.
I think it would be a great idea to place caches at the planets that don't already have them. The ones along the Tour trail could be added to the bookmark list.
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Post by knappling on Nov 9, 2006 18:46:42 GMT -9
If anyone has a detailed map of the trail course, it would be great to have a link to it on the bookmark list.
Anyone who is ready is free to place their caches in the series, if they are within 50 feet of the trail!
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