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Post by FrostG1anT on Apr 22, 2007 20:42:26 GMT -9
What are the rules as far as placing a cache on Fort Richardson property? Is it open to geocaching? Some military bases are. I know there are caches up Arctic Valley road and that is Fort Richardson property. There are also some caches a few hundred feet inside the perimeter fence to Fort Richardson in the Muldoon/Stuckagain area. How about the coastal trail cooridor from Anchorage to Eagle River? Thanks for the answer in advance.
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Post by oleruns on Apr 22, 2007 21:51:49 GMT -9
I don't know if this will help. I was mountain biking on base (Tank trails) and was pulled over by MPs. They asked if I had a R.A.P. I think it was Recreation Access Pass. Anyway, I said no and they told me that I need to pick one up at the gate. The pass is good for a year and you call a number to let them know you are going onto base and let them know when you leave. He said their concern is that people are not in the wrong areas at the wrong time. I plan on getting one, I just have not been on base.
This is a guess and I am pulling this out of thin air. IF we could guarantee every cacher had an RAP and we had an insurance policy naming the military as additional insured. We would have an outside chance. But the rule is no on geocaching.com
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Post by ladybugkids on Apr 23, 2007 6:01:40 GMT -9
The Clear Creek Butte Cache south of Fairbanks is on Ft. Wainwright land. Each post apparently has a Conservation or Recreation Officer who oversees public access to military "recreational" lands. I met Ft. Wainwright's when I was trying to access the cache area and he issued me a permit on the spot. From the cache page: NOTE: To access this cache, a Recreational Access Permit (USARAK) must be acquired for each party member 16 or over, by presenting a photo ID at the Ft. Wainwright main gate on Airport Road. Access may be denied during periods of military training or heightened security. This might apply to Ft. Rich and Elmendorf, too.
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Post by Forum Admin on Apr 23, 2007 10:29:57 GMT -9
The Clear Creek Butte Cache south of Fairbanks is on Ft. Wainwright land. Each post apparently has a Conservation or Recreation Officer who oversees public access to military "recreational" lands. I met Ft. Wainwright's when I was trying to access the cache area and he issued me a permit on the spot. From the cache page: NOTE: To access this cache, a Recreational Access Permit (USARAK) must be acquired for each party member 16 or over, by presenting a photo ID at the Ft. Wainwright main gate on Airport Road. Access may be denied during periods of military training or heightened security. This might apply to Ft. Rich and Elmendorf, too. Frostg1anT - why don't you volunteer to call the Ft Rich Conservation Officer - 384-3175
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Post by FrostG1anT on Apr 23, 2007 20:45:43 GMT -9
I'll try and call them tomorrow after work. Thanks for the direction with this one. I still don't know how some caches are allowed inside military base property and not others, but I am going to get an answer for this.
One other question I have if anyone knows. Is the non-coastal part of the Tony Knowles coastal trail muni property? I ask this because the Glenn Highway cuts through a large part of the military's land and carries with it the trail. This is a wide open untouched area full of great exercise and caching potential. If it is the muni's property then we shouldn't need military approval. I will see what I can find on this too. If anyone has any idea, I'm open to learning. Thanks again
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Post by Forum Admin on Apr 24, 2007 8:23:25 GMT -9
I'll try and call them tomorrow after work. Thanks for the direction with this one. I still don't know how some caches are allowed inside military base property and not others, but I am going to get an answer for this. One other question I have if anyone knows. Is the non-coastal part of the Tony Knowles coastal trail muni property? I ask this because the Glenn Highway cuts through a large part of the military's land and carries with it the trail. This is a wide open untouched area full of great exercise and caching potential. If it is the muni's property then we shouldn't need military approval. I will see what I can find on this too. If anyone has any idea, I'm open to learning. Thanks again I suspect the Glenn corridor has always belonged to the State and that bike path may well be on State ROW. Note the military fence location.
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Post by oleruns on Apr 24, 2007 9:00:09 GMT -9
I think Scobey is right. I have wanted to place a cache along that trail for a year but just have not done it. I'm looking for the right place to make a special container. I think the big flag on the hill along the Glenn should be another spot for a cache. Maybe when I get back but we could put a bunch out and make our own little power trail.... but not called that ;D follow that path all the way to Peters Creek.
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Post by Hazelsgroup on Apr 25, 2007 20:40:09 GMT -9
I think the big flag on the hill along the Glenn should be another spot for a cache. Just Road Marched past Ol'Glory on the small hill on Monday and have been thinking of putting one there.
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