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Post by SSO JOAT on Nov 8, 2013 2:58:01 GMT -9
I understand your point, but the list of lists was developed and is maintained on the website because an internet search on "Alaska Geocaches" turns up in order, geocaching.com, geocachealaska.org, geocachealaska.org/alaskacacheinformation, and alaskageocachers.org. Geocachealaska.proboards.com doesn't appear until the second page of search results, which is the kiss of death for most internet searches. Depends on your favorite search engine, I suppose. Today, the search for "Alaska Geocaches" gives you our website first, geocaching.com's site 2nd & 3rd, and these forums are the 5th search result. That is via the most used search engine on the planet... Google. And NS... updating the bookmarks links list on the website is about 90 seconds worth of work for the webmaster. I have no problem with adding or updating links, especially if a ready to use list of such links is compiled for me and I don't have to do the legwork on chasing the stuff down from one end of the internet to the other.
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 8, 2013 5:08:42 GMT -9
I understand your point, but the list of lists was developed and is maintained on the website because an internet search on "Alaska Geocaches" turns up in order, geocaching.com, geocachealaska.org, geocachealaska.org/alaskacacheinformation, and alaskageocachers.org. Geocachealaska.proboards.com doesn't appear until the second page of search results, which is the kiss of death for most internet searches. Depends on your favorite search engine, I suppose. Today, the search for "Alaska Geocaches" gives you our website first, geocaching.com's site 2nd & 3rd, and these forums are the 5th search result. That is via the most used search engine on the planet... Google. LOL! My results were from Google, too!
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Post by SSO JOAT on Nov 8, 2013 8:07:26 GMT -9
Interesting. Google uses such complicated search result tailoring based on your physical location that you are searching from, your search history, the multitude of "cookies" on your computer that link back to Google, and other statistical calculations, that I truly doubt that any 2 people will get exactly the same layout of results to a simple search for something like "Alaska Geocaches".
Given the low readership of this forum (with the most common complaint being that it is too hard to navigate through too many boards with too many posts), maybe it is wise to try and keep the bookmark link listings up to date on our website. AS I said, it really doesn't take much to add/update links on our website. It is the hunting down of the info that is time consuming. Give me a list of desired links and I can put them on the site in minutes.
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 8, 2013 9:40:58 GMT -9
Sounds like we've got a good place to start the conversation (here on the forums--which have been linked to via our facebook), and then I can compile for JOAT and we can get it loaded on the website.
I don't know how active anyone else is on the groundspeak forums, but we can start a thread in the Northwest board with some of our bookmarks and links to our website, etc. Whatever might make someone's oogling, I mean googling easier!
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 8, 2013 13:29:40 GMT -9
I have only been to the GS forums twice...
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 8, 2013 13:34:36 GMT -9
I don't know how active anyone else is on the groundspeak forums, but we can start a thread in the Northwest board with some of our bookmarks and links to our website, etc. Whatever might make someone's oogling, I mean googling easier! Geocaching.com Forum Moderator Team Misguided pinned this thread at the top of the Northwest Regional Forums. I recommend posting information there to go with information I and other cachers have posted.
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 8, 2013 13:58:50 GMT -9
I don't know how active anyone else is on the groundspeak forums, but we can start a thread in the Northwest board with some of our bookmarks and links to our website, etc. Whatever might make someone's oogling, I mean googling easier! Geocaching.com Forum Moderator Team Misguided pinned this thread at the top of the Northwest Regional Forums. I recommend posting information there to go with information I and other cachers have posted. Ha! Even though I'm on there quite a bit, I forgot about that pinned topic. When I was living in OR, I got in the mindset that it was mostly active for WA/OR, and didn't even think about it as including AK...even though it does/should GeocacheAlaska! Sourdough status revoked? (shy)
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Post by fuzzybelly on Nov 9, 2013 8:45:42 GMT -9
Given the low readership of this forum (with the most common complaint being that it is too hard to navigate through too many boards with too many posts). BINGO! Ding ding ding, ding your the winner JOAT. I've heard this way to many times. I've been searching around for a few neat places to make some comments, but there's just WAY to many things to search around in, with way to many posts to read that are OLD. I think a clean up and purging of old threads would be helpful in gaining visitors, and posters. If there is a want to keep old topics going, just create a new thread to bring it closer to the top, and refresh the discussion. I know this belongs in a different discussion thread, but JOAT said what hit the nail on the head. JMO
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Post by SSO JOAT on Nov 10, 2013 20:26:22 GMT -9
I do not want to "purge" any old threads. Threads are listed by date with the newest at the top. If you start seeing old threads, you've scrolled down the board too far. Keeping old threads allows previous discussion to remain on record. It is all searchable via the little forum search function at the top right of your screen. Also, for those who are into stats (and what geocacher isn't), if I delete an old thread, your post count decreases by one for every post you had in that old thread. Some wouldn't care much for having their counter run backwards because the webmaster started deleting their old discussions. One thing I can do is move old threads into archive sub-boards to get them out of plain sight, but the info will still exist in the filing cabinet for searching if needed. What I can look at, is further narrowing the number of boards down. I shaved it a bit when we transitioned to this new forum layout. I can continue to consolidate similar topics into fewer boards. If you look at the GC.com forums, they basically have all discussion occurring in two primary boards at the top of the forum. We can certainly skinny down the topic boards. At the moment, I'm still up to my neck in processing hundreds of last-minute photo contest submissions and then I need to get the survey built so people can vote for the calendar. And I have a back-log of Sourdough memberships to process, and a pathtag competition to get published, and a Powerpoint to get pulled together for the next EduVent (since we still haven't found a new Education Chair) and numerous website updates that have fallen behind. Oh, and that doesn't include the half dozen of my personal caches that are in dire need of maintenance with two more caches that have gone missing and need to have new containers built (in addition to a couple others that were already on the work bench). Any volunteers for delegation assignments?
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 11, 2013 19:40:12 GMT -9
Hey! I'm on board to help with the EduVent! Give me a shout.
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Post by fuzzybelly on Nov 12, 2013 8:24:02 GMT -9
I do not want to "purge" any old threads. Threads are listed by date with the newest at the top. If you start seeing old threads, you've scrolled down the board too far. Keeping old threads allows previous discussion to remain on record. It is all searchable via the little forum search function at the top right of your screen. Also, for those who are into stats (and what geocacher isn't), if I delete an old thread, your post count decreases by one for every post you had in that old thread. Some wouldn't care much for having their counter run backwards because the webmaster started deleting their old discussions. One thing I can do is move old threads into archive sub-boards to get them out of plain sight, but the info will still exist in the filing cabinet for searching if needed. What I can look at, is further narrowing the number of boards down. I shaved it a bit when we transitioned to this new forum layout. I can continue to consolidate similar topics into fewer boards. If you look at the GC.com forums, they basically have all discussion occurring in two primary boards at the top of the forum. We can certainly skinny down the topic boards. At the moment, I'm still up to my neck in processing hundreds of last-minute photo contest submissions and then I need to get the survey built so people can vote for the calendar. And I have a back-log of Sourdough memberships to process, and a pathtag competition to get published, and a Powerpoint to get pulled together for the next EduVent (since we still haven't found a new Education Chair) and numerous website updates that have fallen behind. Oh, and that doesn't include the half dozen of my personal caches that are in dire need of maintenance with two more caches that have gone missing and need to have new containers built (in addition to a couple others that were already on the work bench). Any volunteers for delegation assignments? I did visit the GC.com forum pages and I see what you mean about keeping all the threads. I don't visit forums except this one so I dodn't understand. I shouldn't offer ideas where I don't know the process. On another note; It looks like you have taken to much on to your plate to me. It sounds like you're taking the lead on to many things. Are there other committee members in some of those areas that can take the lead? If there are website things that need done, you're the webmaster, those should take priority in your todo list.
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Post by barnacle9 on Nov 12, 2013 8:28:18 GMT -9
I do not want to "purge" any old threads. Threads are listed by date with the newest at the top. If you start seeing old threads, you've scrolled down the board too far. Keeping old threads allows previous discussion to remain on record. It is all searchable via the little forum search function at the top right of your screen. Also, for those who are into stats (and what geocacher isn't), if I delete an old thread, your post count decreases by one for every post you had in that old thread. Some wouldn't care much for having their counter run backwards because the webmaster started deleting their old discussions. One thing I can do is move old threads into archive sub-boards to get them out of plain sight, but the info will still exist in the filing cabinet for searching if needed. What I can look at, is further narrowing the number of boards down. I shaved it a bit when we transitioned to this new forum layout. I can continue to consolidate similar topics into fewer boards. If you look at the GC.com forums, they basically have all discussion occurring in two primary boards at the top of the forum. We can certainly skinny down the topic boards. At the moment, I'm still up to my neck in processing hundreds of last-minute photo contest submissions and then I need to get the survey built so people can vote for the calendar. And I have a back-log of Sourdough memberships to process, and a pathtag competition to get published, and a Powerpoint to get pulled together for the next EduVent (since we still haven't found a new Education Chair) and numerous website updates that have fallen behind. Oh, and that doesn't include the half dozen of my personal caches that are in dire need of maintenance with two more caches that have gone missing and need to have new containers built (in addition to a couple others that were already on the work bench). Any volunteers for delegation assignments? I could try to help with some smaller projects while I am on vacation :-)
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 12, 2013 9:00:00 GMT -9
Speaking of purging threads... Let's get this conversation back to bookmarks! Events and event discussions can be found here: geocachealaska.proboards.com/board/24/events-citoOr, we can take the conversation to the shoutbox at the bottom of the page?
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 12, 2013 10:45:36 GMT -9
Or, we can take the conversation to the shoutbox at the bottom of the page? I don't think the Shoutbox is searchable to dredge up past discussions, nor do I think it is the appropriate place to get work done. I do feel your pain about a hijacked thread. We'll get back on topic at some point...you didn't have the historical background that some did about Forum organzation that has occured in the past and it's a hot issue for some.
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 12, 2013 11:05:35 GMT -9
Or, we can take the conversation to the shoutbox at the bottom of the page? I don't think the Shoutbox is searchable to dredge up past discussions, nor do I think it is the appropriate place to get work done. I do feel your pain about a hijacked thread. We'll get back on topic at some point...you didn't have the historical background that some did about Forum organzation that has occured in the past and it's a hot issue for some. I was referring to the event help discussion. I did hear/talk some about the forum organization before, so that conversation I understand as well.
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 12, 2013 13:24:51 GMT -9
Bookmarks...I have come up with a good one to do...stay tuned...it will take a bit of time!
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Post by SSO JOAT on Nov 13, 2013 10:13:50 GMT -9
FYI... shoutbox data is not retained beyond a certain number of posts. Every new shout vaporizes the oldest shout at the top of the list.
The EduVent is being handed off to Joel. I'll be tossing him an email with the canned PPTs that need to be edited/sorted/purged/merged to make a current one. I also have a bunch of stuff from GLR for the reviewer section.
There are a lot of projects. I didn't expect to end up being the solo calendar photo guy this year, but the originator of the contest backed out after the contest was already started. It has taken nearly two weeks to sort through the 140 photo entries. That's only a slight increase from 124 photos last year, however, nearly all of this year's photos dropped on me during the last 36 hours of the contest. Many entries were incomplete and quite a few of them were very sloppy or fragmented about providing the needed info, so I had to solve puzzles to figure out what info went with what photos, etc. I have invested at least 20 hours in photo work over the last couple weeks (not counting file downloading time). But, once the survey is up, there will only be a baker's dozen photos to drop into the calendar template in a week prior to ordering the calendars. So the process is nearly finished at this point.
My personal cache maintenance will just get kicked down the road until everything else is caught up. GLR writes nasty-grams on my cache pages every once in awhile, and I write back that I'll get it fixed. One of these days, maybe I'll go caching again. I think I'm averaging about one or two cache finds per month this year (not counting events and CITOs). Though I do have a date to take a brand new cacher out to learn the game when I get home next week. And the Kenai River Brown Bears have home games, so you'll have to excuse me for a few hours on weekend evenings...
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Post by fuzzybelly on Nov 13, 2013 12:02:50 GMT -9
I'm glad you got help with the edu-event JOAT.
I can't wait to see what 519 has planned with another bookmark list.
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 13, 2013 13:01:02 GMT -9
It has nothing to do with ET hides so you might even find it useful Fuzzy!!! HaHa!
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 13, 2013 16:39:42 GMT -9
It has nothing to do with ET hides so you might even find it useful Fuzzy!!! HaHa! Zing! Oh, wait. That goes for me, too. I'm 0-3 on the Anchorage ET caches I've gone after. Thankfully the one here in Homer didn't make me go ca-ray-zee or misreid the situation.
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 13, 2013 17:13:08 GMT -9
That to can be remedied ie a for real deal ET hide in homer.... And Thanks for another cache name!!! You are becoming my best source for those!
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 26, 2013 8:26:55 GMT -9
New bookmark on my profile...definitely one of my favorite treks...it is not for the timid.... Enjoy
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 26, 2013 11:34:16 GMT -9
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 26, 2013 11:59:17 GMT -9
NS...Eight stars of gold is one you should look into...it is over a year old. The new one is the bear valley to potters valley via McHugh peak and coyote ridge...another one I recommend for you
I have a couple of others to work on.....
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 26, 2013 12:11:16 GMT -9
Mwahahahaha! Er, I mean, ok. I'll look into them. Are both lists winter friendly hikes and finds? I need to have something my other half can find entertaining enough based on the accessibility of the hike, and I can grab caches along the way.
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 26, 2013 12:22:41 GMT -9
All caches are winter friendly... if you work for them said the grasshopper!
By the normal (and grasshopper is far from normal) definition of winter friendly, those two bookmark list are NOT!
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 26, 2013 12:35:01 GMT -9
If you are looking for a fun winter friendly hike look at the 'color loop' caches by karma out of the prospect heights trailhead of chugach state park. It is 4ish miles with maybe a 1000 ft of elevation gain. One of my favorite after work winter hikes and perhaps another bookmark list!
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Post by NeverSummer on Nov 26, 2013 14:34:47 GMT -9
Look at how productive this thread has become! (At least for the two of us so far...)
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Post by akgh519 on Nov 26, 2013 15:20:10 GMT -9
Agreed!!!
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Post by fuzzybelly on Nov 26, 2013 15:33:01 GMT -9
Oh I'm following along and being reminded of fun hikes that have caches on them, so it's helping me too.
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