cavyguy
Silver Cacher
Posts: 175
GeocacheAlaska! Membership Level: Sourdough
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Post by cavyguy on May 19, 2010 20:24:04 GMT -9
It is discouraging at times how fellow cachers leave a cache after they find them. I was out caching yesterday with a friend and we returned to several caches I had been FTF on. In one case the cache was was just place back close to its hiding sport but in plain site. It had only been found by 2 other experienced cachers!!! About a month ago I found a cache that I had DNFed in the fall. It was hanging on a tree, when it was suppose to be on the ground under leaves. It had been found a couple days earlier by a new cacher. I think one of the reasons I really like the FTFs are because the cache will never be as pristine after it is first found, as well as the chase. This is a great hobby and it is up to us to make sure those who follow us have as uch fun or frustration depending on the cache!! On another note I have heard of experienced cachers thinking they should make a cache harder than they find it. There are times when things happen that might prevent you placing back exactly especially if the hiding spot is fragil. We should still do our best to get it back to the original state. Lets go caching!!!!!
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Post by caprahircus on May 20, 2010 7:42:27 GMT -9
I know the feeling. My Borders on Insanity regularly was replaced in an uncovered, visible position rather than hidden as intended.
Caveats: Natural camo can be displaced by weather or creatures (a subsequent finder has no idea how the hide was intended); Changes to the hide location can make it impossible to rehide it in the same manner (broken clips, broken branches, etc.); Some delecate camo will naturally deteriorate with handling; COs that fail to log a maintenance activity that may have had an impact on the hide.
Yep, FTFs are a bit more challenging because you are on your own! No PAFs! No hints buried in previous logs!
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Post by akstafford on May 20, 2010 9:46:38 GMT -9
I whole heartedly agree... But I will admit that in my excitement to find a cache my brain detaches a little and sometimes I'm not careful to note the precise position of the hide, making it difficult to rehide properly...
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Post by ladybugkids on May 20, 2010 10:48:50 GMT -9
Another time caches get moved is when several cachers are caching together. The first person will find the cache, pass around the container for others to sign the log, then the last person places the cache where they think they saw the first person retrieve it which isn't always the right place. Ideally, the first person to find the cache is the person who replaces the cache.
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Post by SSO JOAT on May 21, 2010 3:22:03 GMT -9
Such as placing an LPC cache in the center console of a vehicle. Ditto the above sentiments. Being a completley detail oriented person, I will take very careful observation of the hide before I even touch it so that I can put it back exactly as it is supposed to be. I'm to the point where I'm writing explicit instructions on the first page of the log as to exactly where the cache is supposed to go. So after they've found it, there is a written confirmation of how the hide was supposed to be. I have two hides that I'm to the point where I'm going to take a picture of the cache in the proper location. Then I'll glue the laminated photo inside the lid. Maybe that will help as these caches are consistently put back wrong and I have to check on them frequently.
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Post by ladybugkids on May 21, 2010 4:31:00 GMT -9
Such as placing an LPC cache in the center console of a vehicle. LOL! C'mon...I put the cache back where I found it! ;D For those who have missed the telling and retelling of the events of March 14, check out the first logs for The Geocache Challenge.Caveats: Natural camo can be displaced by weather or creatures (a subsequent finder has no idea how the hide was intended); Yup! The local birds have had a hey day with my Bear Tracks Park cache this Spring, but all is good again. Those who found the cache last year (yes, more than six months since the last find on this one) will understand what I mean!
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Post by caprahircus on May 21, 2010 17:22:14 GMT -9
All-in-all, if in doubt do your best and let the CO know ASAP. They can decide if something needs attention based on your comments.
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Post by NorthWes on Aug 25, 2010 11:19:57 GMT -9
Such as placing an LPC cache in the center console of a vehicle. I'll always remember that find, and I'll probably always hear about it, too! Turned into a fun flash mob in the back parking lot of midtown WalMart... just glad everyone was so kind to me once I showed back up on site. However, it illustrates the 'asleep at the switch' attitude we have to school ourselves to avoid . I like to think I'm observant about the hide's placement... and this fits in with the 'pay it forward' "Trade Even / Trade Up" swag issue, as well as the 'do a little maintenance for the cache owner' approach. Golden Rule of Caching - if this was MY hide, how would I want it to be handled?
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