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Post by omgcrew on Nov 25, 2006 23:08:03 GMT -9
I am preparing to release a cache that could be classified as a multi and a mystery/puzzle cache. What would be the proper listing on GC.com? Since both elements will apply.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 26, 2006 1:19:38 GMT -9
I would say puzzle. Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. Can't wait -
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Post by AKDogMom on Nov 26, 2006 7:05:49 GMT -9
That's "Less competition for the FTF" in Ole-Speak
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 26, 2006 7:49:59 GMT -9
I am preparing to release a cache that could be classified as a multi and a mystery/puzzle cache. What would be the proper listing on GC.com? Since both elements will apply. If a cacher can find the cache using the information on the cache page and information you provide in the field, I would list it as a multi-cache. If research/puzzle solving is required ahead of time to calculate coordinates, I would list it as a mystery cache. If a cacher is paperless caching with only the initial coordinates and comment field populated from GSAK in their GPS, they should be able to tell by the type of cache whether they need more information to complete the cache. The geocaching.com guidelines provide some pretty good definitions of cache types. Here a geocaching.com forum thread on the topic: Difference between a multi and a puzzle cache?
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 26, 2006 13:01:48 GMT -9
I would say puzzle. Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. Can't wait - Yeah really.... puzzle please.... For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. And it happened to me at a regular cache in Tucson. Just imagine if a cacher was not using a PDA / Laptop / printout etc... he or she will be forever searching.
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Post by powmia on Nov 26, 2006 15:23:02 GMT -9
I would say puzzle. Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. Can't wait - Yeah really.... puzzle please.... For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. And it happened to me at a regular cache in Tucson. Just imagine if a cacher was not using a PDA / Laptop / printout etc... he or she will be forever searching. I guess I have a lot to learn to figure how to get caches into my Nuvi 660 so I can be alerted while travelling if one is in the area.
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 26, 2006 17:17:40 GMT -9
For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. I don't blame you for not liking this one. Let me get this straight...it's a virtual, but the first line on the page says the cache is not at the posted location (which is usually one of the first lines of a Mystery/Puzzle cache). Then, an ABS cache container is described (remember, this is listed as a virtual). Finally, in the last paragraph, the cache owner reports that the cache went missing, so he converted it to a virtual. Who ever heard of a puzzle virtual?
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 26, 2006 17:19:35 GMT -9
Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. I don't understand...what would the number of visitors a cache is expected to get have to do with how the cache is listed?
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 26, 2006 17:25:56 GMT -9
That's "Less competition for the FTF" in Ole-Speak Oh - ho! She's got you down cold, Oleruns!!!
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Post by NorthWes on Nov 26, 2006 17:36:09 GMT -9
I would say puzzle. Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. Can't wait - Yeah really.... puzzle please.... For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. And it happened to me at a regular cache in Tucson. Just imagine if a cacher was not using a PDA / Laptop / printout etc... he or she will be forever searching. As a guy born in England. this cache you referenced had drawn my attention a year and half ago when I was 'surveying' Arizona for a second home. I passed on it because of the oddities mentioned...
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Post by powmia on Nov 26, 2006 17:42:11 GMT -9
Puzzle listing will get less visitors in my opinion. I don't understand...what would the number of visitors a cache is expected to get have to do with how the cache is listed? If I see a cache listed as "?" I usually pass on it. Maybe at a later date I might look at it. If it entails a lot of work I will pass again. Hence one less visitor.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 26, 2006 20:52:10 GMT -9
Two things: 1.) if you put a lot of work in a cache and nobody goes for it, it's not fun for the hider - See MTBoy 2.) See why I like puzzles - AKdogmom's reply ;D
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Post by powmia on Nov 26, 2006 21:08:48 GMT -9
Two things: 1.) if you put a lot of work in a cache and nobody goes for it, it's not fun for the hider - See MTBoy 2.) See why I like puzzles - AKdogmom's reply ;D The cache is also no fun for the unfortunate coin or TB owner when someone puts their coin or TB in that cache, and then it rests at the top of a mountain for months.
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Post by oleruns on Nov 26, 2006 21:24:26 GMT -9
I have a cache that will be listed tomorrow if all goes well is a dilemma as well. I want to have it as a multi but the first part you will find virtual, I have it listed as a puzzle but it is not very hard. It's easy and corny but I want to check a few things out before I try a harder one. I hope OMGCrew and I are not thinking the same thing Their cache can not be as goofy as mine
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Post by ladybugkids on Nov 26, 2006 21:41:22 GMT -9
Two things: 1.) if you put a lot of work in a cache and nobody goes for it, it's not fun for the hider - See MTBoy 2.) See why I like puzzles - AKdogmom's reply ;D The cache is also no fun for the unfortunate coin or TB owner when someone puts their coin or TB in that cache, and then it rests at the top of a mountain for months. Well, at least one knows their traveler hasn't been stolen. Seriously, though, we've had the same kind of thing happen to travellers at Chena Dome Cache. RLTW and I rescued TBs that had been up there for over a year only to have another cacher drop off a bug that stayed up there another year. That's an important part of traveller (TBs and coins) etiquette...unless the traveller specifically wants to be put in a difficult cache, put it somewhere it can keep moving .
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 26, 2006 22:08:13 GMT -9
Yeah really.... puzzle please.... For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. And it happened to me at a regular cache in Tucson. Just imagine if a cacher was not using a PDA / Laptop / printout etc... he or she will be forever searching. I guess I have a lot to learn to figure how to get caches into my Nuvi 660 so I can be alerted while travelling if one is in the area. Use POILOADER a free Garmin program for NUVI, perfect to warn you about upcoming Geocaches.
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 26, 2006 22:16:04 GMT -9
For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. I don't blame you for not liking this one. Let me get this straight...it's a virtual, but the first line on the page says the cache is not at the posted location (which is usually one of the first lines of a Mystery/Puzzle cache). Then, an ABS cache container is described (remember, this is listed as a virtual). Finally, in the last paragraph, the cache owner reports that the cache went missing, so he converted it to a virtual. Who ever heard of a puzzle virtual? That is why I left it alone. Funny I met Trekin Triad at a nearby cache and they've been bypassing this one for 2 years. Oh well..
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 26, 2006 22:19:16 GMT -9
Yeah really.... puzzle please.... For example… Yesterday I was caching in the Sonoita, Arizona (see link) and my virtual cache alarm on my TomTom/PDA sounded off, so I made a U-turn and arrive on the spot. Bought up the cache info in PDA and to find out that it is not a true virtual, it was a puzzle. I dislike this type of listings. And it happened to me at a regular cache in Tucson. Just imagine if a cacher was not using a PDA / Laptop / printout etc... he or she will be forever searching. As a guy born in England. this cache you referenced had drawn my attention a year and half ago when I was 'surveying' Arizona for a second home. I passed on it because of the oddities mentioned... Yup! Funny you mention 2nd home... I find myself drifting north for my 2nd home.
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Post by omgcrew on Nov 27, 2006 17:41:18 GMT -9
I think I have figured it out. It will be a multi. I am starting the cold weather tests as I type this. Will keep you posted on the results.
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Post by powmia on Nov 27, 2006 20:08:40 GMT -9
I guess I have a lot to learn to figure how to get caches into my Nuvi 660 so I can be alerted while travelling if one is in the area. Use POILOADER a free Garmin program for NUVI, perfect to warn you about upcoming Geocaches. Thanks. I will attempt it.
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Post by powmia on Nov 29, 2006 19:04:06 GMT -9
I guess I have a lot to learn to figure how to get caches into my Nuvi 660 so I can be alerted while travelling if one is in the area. Use POILOADER a free Garmin program for NUVI, perfect to warn you about upcoming Geocaches. Maybe if you have time when you visit in December you can stop by the hole on FRA and give me some pointers on the poiloader.
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Post by New Yorker on Nov 29, 2006 19:56:57 GMT -9
Use POILOADER a free Garmin program for NUVI, perfect to warn you about upcoming Geocaches. Maybe if you have time when you visit in December you can stop by the hole on FRA and give me some pointers on the poiloader. Sure... I'll stop by on the way to snoop at the PX guns.. I myself tinkering with the delete custom POI feature in it. Some how it's taking out the "My Favorites" along with it. It's the only choice it gives me....
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Post by Hazelsgroup on Jan 14, 2007 11:13:48 GMT -9
Use POILOADER a free Garmin program for NUVI, perfect to warn you about upcoming Geocaches. Thanks. I will attempt it. I really want to start using some kind of downloader for anything on my GPS. It takes to long to put them in by hand. Guess it is the not knowing what is going to happen when you plug in the cord, heck DR Bleh maybe around the corner.
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Post by powmia on Jan 14, 2007 11:32:56 GMT -9
I really want to start using some kind of downloader for anything on my GPS. It takes to long to put them in by hand. Guess it is the not knowing what is going to happen when you plug in the cord, heck DR Bleh maybe around the corner. I use the program "Easy GPS" available on the geocaching.com site. I believe if you click on any cache to download it, and you do not have the program, it will ask if you want to download Easy GPS. That is the way I got it.
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Post by Hazelsgroup on Jan 14, 2007 11:58:52 GMT -9
I'll give this one a try first.... maybe play with it with my husbands GPS first... ;D
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Post by Hazelsgroup on Jan 15, 2007 18:18:34 GMT -9
I really want to start using some kind of downloader for anything on my GPS. It takes to long to put them in by hand. Guess it is the not knowing what is going to happen when you plug in the cord, heck DR Bleh maybe around the corner. I use the program "Easy GPS" available on the geocaching.com site. I believe if you click on any cache to download it, and you do not have the program, it will ask if you want to download Easy GPS. That is the way I got it. This whole thing is more difficult then I thought. I did download it but added a wp clicked a few buttons and figured it would just download straight to my gps... doesnt seem to work that way. A bit more involved. Need to do a little more research.
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Post by powmia on Jan 15, 2007 18:46:49 GMT -9
I use the program "Easy GPS" available on the geocaching.com site. I believe if you click on any cache to download it, and you do not have the program, it will ask if you want to download Easy GPS. That is the way I got it. This whole thing is more difficult then I thought. I did download it but added a wp clicked a few buttons and figured it would just download straight to my gps... doesnt seem to work that way. A bit more involved. Need to do a little more research. That is correct. It has to be installed on your computer. Then you download the caches to the computer. Then you load the caches from the computer program to the GPS. A good thing about that program is: Should caches in your gps get accidently wiped out, you just reload from the program. Also you can transfer existing caches in your gps back to the program. It has been a long time since I set that program up on my computer so I don't remember exactly how it is done.
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Post by powmia on Jan 15, 2007 19:21:11 GMT -9
I use the program "Easy GPS" available on the geocaching.com site. I believe if you click on any cache to download it, and you do not have the program, it will ask if you want to download Easy GPS. That is the way I got it. This whole thing is more difficult then I thought. I did download it but added a wp clicked a few buttons and figured it would just download straight to my gps... doesnt seem to work that way. A bit more involved. Need to do a little more research. This info might help you: www.geocaching.com/waypoints/default.aspxThis explains accessing the programs. I finally remembered where I had seen it.
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Post by Hazelsgroup on Jan 15, 2007 20:35:32 GMT -9
I worked with the easygps program a little more this evening. Was able to send data from GPS to Program but not take from gc.com and put on easy to garmin. Not getting it. Will work more later. Thanks for your input Powmia.
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Post by ladybugkids on Jan 15, 2007 20:41:13 GMT -9
I worked with the easygps program a little more this evening. Was able to send data from GPS to Program but not take from gc.com and put on easy to garmin. Not getting it. Will work more later. Thanks for your input Powmia. You have to first run a Pocket Query on the gc.com website to get a gpx or loc file. Gc.com will e-mail you the Pocket Query (be sure to check the day of the week for the query to run). Save the Pocket Query from the e-mail to a folder on your hard drive. Then, open the Pocket Query using EasyGPS. Hope I provided the right answer.
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